WEBVTT 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:03.200 position:50% align:middle ♪ [music] ♪ 00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:07.130 position:50% align:middle - [Jason] Welcome, everyone. 00:00:07.130 --> 00:00:12.890 position:50% align:middle Thank you for joining us for a discussion on the NCSBN ID, the one true unique nurse identifier 00:00:12.890 --> 00:00:14.500 position:50% align:middle for every nurse. 00:00:14.500 --> 00:00:19.330 position:50% align:middle There's been a lot of buzz over the last few years in the data world around the NCSBN ID. 00:00:19.330 --> 00:00:25.880 position:50% align:middle So, today, we're talking to four experts who will help us understand its value and importance to healthcare. 00:00:25.880 --> 00:00:27.510 position:50% align:middle It's wonderful to have all of you here. 00:00:27.510 --> 00:00:29.140 position:50% align:middle Thank you for joining us. 00:00:29.140 --> 00:00:34.460 position:50% align:middle Dr. Nancy Beale is president of Telemetrix, co-chair of the Alliance for Nursing Informatics, 00:00:34.460 --> 00:00:39.030 position:50% align:middle and like our other panelists as well, a member of the Nursing Knowledge & Big Data Science 00:00:39.030 --> 00:00:41.620 position:50% align:middle Policy and Advocacy Workgroup. 00:00:41.620 --> 00:00:48.080 position:50% align:middle Dr. Susan Alexander is a professor in the College of Nursing at the University of Alabama at Huntsville. 00:00:48.080 --> 00:00:52.860 position:50% align:middle Whende Carroll is a clinical informatics expert, transforming healthcare through the use 00:00:52.860 --> 00:00:54.570 position:50% align:middle of data and technology. 00:00:54.570 --> 00:01:00.290 position:50% align:middle And finally, Nur Rajwany is the chief information officer here at the National Council of State 00:01:00.290 --> 00:01:01.290 position:50% align:middle Boards of Nursing. 00:01:01.290 --> 00:01:06.120 position:50% align:middle And let's get started right away, first, by hearing a little more from each of them in terms 00:01:06.120 --> 00:01:08.460 position:50% align:middle of the importance of data to their roles. 00:01:08.460 --> 00:01:09.750 position:50% align:middle Nancy, I'm going to start with you. 00:01:09.750 --> 00:01:11.870 position:50% align:middle - [Dr. Beale] Thank you so much. 00:01:11.870 --> 00:01:17.860 position:50% align:middle I would say data is really the future, as we talk about more and more systems that have come 00:01:17.860 --> 00:01:24.180 position:50% align:middle in to healthcare, and how data is transferred from one system to another, or otherwise 00:01:24.180 --> 00:01:26.520 position:50% align:middle known as interoperability. 00:01:26.520 --> 00:01:33.670 position:50% align:middle And without solid data that is equal across systems, interoperability becomes very complicated, and, 00:01:33.670 --> 00:01:35.940 position:50% align:middle in some cases, impossible. 00:01:35.940 --> 00:01:43.090 position:50% align:middle In my role, I lead systems, digital health systems, and so ensuring that data that transfers from one 00:01:43.090 --> 00:01:46.400 position:50% align:middle system to another really makes it meaningful. 00:01:46.400 --> 00:01:47.910 position:50% align:middle - Susan, how about you? 00:01:47.910 --> 00:01:51.230 position:50% align:middle Tell us a little bit more about yourself, and the role of data in your work. 00:01:51.230 --> 00:01:51.920 position:50% align:middle - [Dr. Alexander] Sure. 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:56.050 position:50% align:middle So I'm a professor in the College of Nursing at the University of Alabama in Huntsville. 00:01:56.050 --> 00:01:59.810 position:50% align:middle And I'm on the graduate side of the program. 00:01:59.810 --> 00:02:05.670 position:50% align:middle And so it's really important to us to be able to get accurate data about our applicants and our students 00:02:05.670 --> 00:02:09.800 position:50% align:middle to be able to track their outcomes in our program from an educational perspective, 00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:12.660 position:50% align:middle and then help launch their careers successfully. 00:02:12.660 --> 00:02:18.720 position:50% align:middle So the data point that we use and the data that we capture help us understand how successful we are in our 00:02:18.720 --> 00:02:24.220 position:50% align:middle programs to help our students, and to paint a better picture of how their skills and 00:02:24.220 --> 00:02:28.753 position:50% align:middle training are improved by getting additional education. 00:02:28.753 --> 00:02:30.300 position:50% align:middle - That's important work. 00:02:30.300 --> 00:02:31.977 position:50% align:middle Whende, how about you? 00:02:31.977 --> 00:02:37.730 position:50% align:middle - [Whende] I am the founder of Nurse Evolution, which is an information hub for nurses to learn more 00:02:37.730 --> 00:02:43.890 position:50% align:middle about technology, analytics, and innovation concepts, and how they work together. 00:02:43.890 --> 00:02:53.190 position:50% align:middle And why I think that's so important and for nurses to know is because we need to forward our visibility, 00:02:53.190 --> 00:02:59.150 position:50% align:middle and our abilities, and how we use data, and understand the basics of healthcare technology, 00:02:59.150 --> 00:03:01.110 position:50% align:middle and our creativity as well. 00:03:01.110 --> 00:03:07.554 position:50% align:middle I'm also the clinical informatics advisor at HIMSS, where I get to work with a lot of different clinicians. 00:03:07.554 --> 00:03:12.200 position:50% align:middle And it's imperative that we raise our voice, and we have more vision, 00:03:12.200 --> 00:03:16.850 position:50% align:middle and are more visionaries of the value of nursing. 00:03:16.850 --> 00:03:20.849 position:50% align:middle And we can do this through the topic we're going to talk about today. 00:03:20.849 --> 00:03:22.320 position:50% align:middle - Thank you, Whende. 00:03:22.320 --> 00:03:24.440 position:50% align:middle Nur, I know you work quite a bit with data. 00:03:24.440 --> 00:03:25.670 position:50% align:middle Same question to you. 00:03:25.670 --> 00:03:32.690 position:50% align:middle - [Nur] So, as my role as a CIO at National Council, one of the top priorities that I have is to make sure 00:03:32.690 --> 00:03:34.370 position:50% align:middle that the data is secure. 00:03:34.370 --> 00:03:35.560 position:50% align:middle Right? 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:40.250 position:50% align:middle Security of data is extremely important, especially in this day and age. 00:03:40.250 --> 00:03:48.410 position:50% align:middle The data that comes to the Nursys system from all the boards of nursing, it goes through a lot of touchpoints 00:03:48.410 --> 00:03:50.230 position:50% align:middle and a lot of complexities. 00:03:50.230 --> 00:03:56.510 position:50% align:middle And we need to make sure, and that's what we do, the entire journey of this data from point A 00:03:56.510 --> 00:04:00.870 position:50% align:middle to point Z, which is at the Nursys system, is secure. 00:04:00.870 --> 00:04:02.180 position:50% align:middle This whole path is secure. 00:04:02.180 --> 00:04:07.570 position:50% align:middle And then, when it's resting at the NCSBN, it has more security around it. 00:04:07.570 --> 00:04:14.260 position:50% align:middle And when you have security, when the data is cleaned, when the data has integrity about it, 00:04:14.260 --> 00:04:18.130 position:50% align:middle the business actually has a lot of trust and confidence. 00:04:18.130 --> 00:04:22.936 position:50% align:middle And with that trust and confidence, I believe that business can succeed in what it needs to do. 00:04:22.936 --> 00:04:27.910 position:50% align:middle - So, Nancy, one of the things I know we're going to hear a lot about in this discussion is the concept of a 00:04:27.910 --> 00:04:29.570 position:50% align:middle unique nurse identifier. 00:04:29.570 --> 00:04:34.357 position:50% align:middle Can you maybe just help us understand what that is and why that's so important in healthcare? 00:04:34.357 --> 00:04:35.030 position:50% align:middle - Yes. 00:04:35.030 --> 00:04:43.410 position:50% align:middle A unique nurse identifier is a number that is specific to every licensed nurse throughout, 00:04:43.410 --> 00:04:47.620 position:50% align:middle not only the United States but beyond. 00:04:47.620 --> 00:04:52.900 position:50% align:middle And that number, by being unique, means that you can trust that as a source 00:04:52.900 --> 00:04:57.412 position:50% align:middle of information, and a source of truth across systems. 00:04:57.412 --> 00:04:58.760 position:50% align:middle - I like that. 00:04:58.760 --> 00:05:04.790 position:50% align:middle Now, Nur, I know that at NCSBN, we have developed and we're promoting the use of the NCSBN ID. 00:05:04.790 --> 00:05:08.006 position:50% align:middle What can you tell us about the NCSBN ID specifically? 00:05:08.006 --> 00:05:09.000 position:50% align:middle - Right. 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:17.980 position:50% align:middle So NCSBN ID is a number that is automatically generated through a complex set of algorithms, 00:05:17.980 --> 00:05:23.030 position:50% align:middle and many variations that it goes through, including the data matching, 00:05:23.030 --> 00:05:27.100 position:50% align:middle deduplication of the data that happens. 00:05:27.100 --> 00:05:32.420 position:50% align:middle That is why it is considered to be a unique identifier. 00:05:32.420 --> 00:05:40.560 position:50% align:middle Now when this NCSBN ID is connected to a nurse, it takes on the identity of a unique nurse identifier. 00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:47.630 position:50% align:middle We guarantee that this ID is nationally unique, and in the future, globally unique as well 00:05:47.630 --> 00:05:48.707 position:50% align:middle in the nursing world. 00:05:48.707 --> 00:05:50.600 position:50% align:middle - Wow, that's impressive. 00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:56.620 position:50% align:middle Now, for a nurse who's interested in finding out their NCSBN ID, or obtaining an NCSBN ID, 00:05:56.620 --> 00:05:57.745 position:50% align:middle what do they need to do? 00:05:57.745 --> 00:06:02.550 position:50% align:middle - The nurse has to not do anything to get an NCSBN ID assigned. 00:06:02.550 --> 00:06:02.840 position:50% align:middle Why? 00:06:02.840 --> 00:06:09.530 position:50% align:middle Because NCSBN ID is assigned automatically to the nurse through the nursing examination process, 00:06:09.530 --> 00:06:14.380 position:50% align:middle namely the NCLEX for PN or NCLEX for RN. 00:06:14.380 --> 00:06:19.440 position:50% align:middle And also the data that we get from the boards of nursing through that matching process, 00:06:19.440 --> 00:06:22.860 position:50% align:middle the ID is automatically assigned to the nurse. 00:06:22.860 --> 00:06:28.040 position:50% align:middle Every single nurse who becomes licensed gets an ID assigned. 00:06:28.040 --> 00:06:30.990 position:50% align:middle So from that perspective, the nurse doesn't have to do anything. 00:06:30.990 --> 00:06:39.680 position:50% align:middle Now, however, if a nurse would like to find out their ID, very simple, they have to go to the primary source 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:43.950 position:50% align:middle equivalent nursys.com system. 00:06:43.950 --> 00:06:48.300 position:50% align:middle The data in that system is provided by all the boards of nursing. 00:06:48.300 --> 00:06:51.460 position:50% align:middle Without them providing the data, this would not be possible. 00:06:51.460 --> 00:06:57.351 position:50% align:middle A nurse can look themselves up, and the ID would be right there assigned to them. 00:06:57.351 --> 00:07:05.000 position:50% align:middle - So, Whende, when you hear about the NCSBN ID, what are some of the advantages that strike you? 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:13.820 position:50% align:middle - The advantages are...I think, about health systems, and I think how they can use all their disparate data 00:07:13.820 --> 00:07:21.800 position:50% align:middle sources from different technologies such as enterprise resource planning to the EHR, 00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:28.160 position:50% align:middle to remote patient monitoring, and even equipment such as taking vital signs and 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:29.540 position:50% align:middle things like that. 00:07:29.540 --> 00:07:40.140 position:50% align:middle They can aggregate that data together with the NCSBN ID and begin to look at how nurses are performing. 00:07:40.140 --> 00:07:47.730 position:50% align:middle Quality improvement for training, and to be able to see who our high performers are 00:07:47.730 --> 00:07:48.750 position:50% align:middle at a high level. 00:07:48.750 --> 00:07:51.060 position:50% align:middle We can look at it at a macro level. 00:07:51.060 --> 00:07:55.820 position:50% align:middle And we can have the best outcomes for our patients whom are providing them with the best care 00:07:55.820 --> 00:07:57.150 position:50% align:middle for those individuals. 00:07:57.150 --> 00:07:59.550 position:50% align:middle - Personally, I appreciate the convenience. 00:07:59.550 --> 00:08:02.366 position:50% align:middle I can go to the website, look it up, print anything. 00:08:02.366 --> 00:08:04.130 position:50% align:middle Use Quick Confirm. 00:08:04.130 --> 00:08:05.170 position:50% align:middle It's my number. 00:08:05.170 --> 00:08:07.275 position:50% align:middle It's my number for life. 00:08:07.275 --> 00:08:12.000 position:50% align:middle I've added it to a lot of my documents, my professional documents. 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:16.840 position:50% align:middle And then in education, it's just so easy for us to be able to confirm that our 00:08:16.840 --> 00:08:21.510 position:50% align:middle students are licensed when they've had a change in licensure from state to state. 00:08:21.510 --> 00:08:26.170 position:50% align:middle We can use the other products that are available on Nursys to be notified that they've become licensed 00:08:26.170 --> 00:08:30.090 position:50% align:middle as an advanced practice nurse, or they've gotten licensure in another state. 00:08:30.090 --> 00:08:36.380 position:50% align:middle So it really helps us understand better where our graduates are going beyond our program. 00:08:36.380 --> 00:08:40.320 position:50% align:middle And then just as Nur said, the security of knowing that, 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:45.400 position:50% align:middle that the information that is coming from the system is accurate, it's updated daily. 00:08:45.400 --> 00:08:47.540 position:50% align:middle We just have no questions about it. 00:08:47.540 --> 00:08:53.390 position:50% align:middle - I would say it also facilitates the interoperability, and also potential for automation 00:08:53.390 --> 00:08:56.900 position:50% align:middle of systems across systems. 00:08:56.900 --> 00:09:03.830 position:50% align:middle Today, some of the systems that Whende gave as examples from the ERP system to the EHR, 00:09:03.830 --> 00:09:11.470 position:50% align:middle to maybe physiologic monitoring system, each of those have a place for the data to live related 00:09:11.470 --> 00:09:12.737 position:50% align:middle to a nurse. 00:09:12.737 --> 00:09:18.520 position:50% align:middle Right now, much of that upload of that information is manual. 00:09:18.520 --> 00:09:25.280 position:50% align:middle Using a standard like the unique nurse identifier facilitates automation and interoperability 00:09:25.280 --> 00:09:27.110 position:50% align:middle between those systems. 00:09:27.110 --> 00:09:32.050 position:50% align:middle In addition to that, I would say as someone who also employs nurses, 00:09:32.050 --> 00:09:40.750 position:50% align:middle I am able to very easily automate the lookup to ensure where people are licensed across states, 00:09:40.750 --> 00:09:44.910 position:50% align:middle or in individual states, and if their license is current, accurate, and valid. 00:09:44.910 --> 00:09:50.330 position:50% align:middle - There's also some buzz that potentially something like an NPI could accomplish the same. 00:09:50.330 --> 00:09:52.160 position:50% align:middle Is that something that you've thought about? 00:09:52.160 --> 00:09:55.966 position:50% align:middle And if so, how would you compare and contrast to the NCSBN ID? 00:09:55.966 --> 00:10:01.650 position:50% align:middle - I think there are some real key pieces to know about the NPI. 00:10:01.650 --> 00:10:05.210 position:50% align:middle One is that it is not unique to nursing. 00:10:05.210 --> 00:10:08.440 position:50% align:middle It is used across disciplines, clinical disciplines. 00:10:08.440 --> 00:10:16.620 position:50% align:middle So if you're looking to find nurses in the data set, you'll find other interspersed clinicians if you're 00:10:16.620 --> 00:10:18.760 position:50% align:middle just using the NPI. 00:10:18.760 --> 00:10:21.750 position:50% align:middle Additionally, it's a voluntary process. 00:10:21.750 --> 00:10:27.234 position:50% align:middle You have to apply for an NPI, whereas, as Nur shared earlier, 00:10:27.234 --> 00:10:34.200 position:50% align:middle the NCSBN ID is automatically assigned, and everyone already has it. 00:10:34.200 --> 00:10:42.620 position:50% align:middle And a piece of infrastructure, the NCSBN ID is really data-centric. 00:10:42.620 --> 00:10:49.290 position:50% align:middle Where the NPI was really designed from reimbursement model perspective less 00:10:49.290 --> 00:10:53.714 position:50% align:middle than unique nurse-specific identifier. 00:10:53.714 --> 00:10:57.930 position:50% align:middle - Every nurse has an NCSBN ID, not every nurse has an NPI. 00:10:57.930 --> 00:10:59.420 position:50% align:middle Does every nurse need an NPI? 00:10:59.420 --> 00:11:01.480 position:50% align:middle I'm not going to try to answer that question. 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:05.410 position:50% align:middle If you're involved, if you're an advanced practice nurse, certainly because you'll be involved 00:11:05.410 --> 00:11:10.300 position:50% align:middle in reimbursement, and billing, and that is...you have to have an NPI, 00:11:10.300 --> 00:11:12.400 position:50% align:middle it's an essential element. 00:11:12.400 --> 00:11:17.320 position:50% align:middle But the numbers and the taxonomy of the name, it's very different. 00:11:17.320 --> 00:11:20.190 position:50% align:middle The intent and purpose of the number is very different. 00:11:20.190 --> 00:11:22.380 position:50% align:middle It's not an either/or choice. 00:11:22.380 --> 00:11:26.280 position:50% align:middle It's whether you need the NPI in your daily work. 00:11:26.280 --> 00:11:30.000 position:50% align:middle And how can your work as a nurse best be illustrated? 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:37.890 position:50% align:middle And it really, again, depends on your task, your responsibilities, your educational level. 00:11:37.890 --> 00:11:40.480 position:50% align:middle But it's not a choice of either/or. 00:11:40.480 --> 00:11:41.845 position:50% align:middle They're very complementary. 00:11:41.845 --> 00:11:51.180 position:50% align:middle - If we want to move towards doing more research and inquiry about the value of nursing and reimbursement, 00:11:51.180 --> 00:11:59.700 position:50% align:middle we want to measure all nurses who have an NCSBN ID, which it's, as we talked about, freely available. 00:11:59.700 --> 00:12:02.510 position:50% align:middle There's nothing you have to do to get it. 00:12:02.510 --> 00:12:06.710 position:50% align:middle Versus the NPI, which has lower numbers. 00:12:06.710 --> 00:12:11.890 position:50% align:middle So if we want to do that real value inquiry, we need to look at all nurses, 00:12:11.890 --> 00:12:14.250 position:50% align:middle because we'll be ahead if we do that. 00:12:14.250 --> 00:12:15.710 position:50% align:middle - I got it, Whende. 00:12:15.710 --> 00:12:17.620 position:50% align:middle And Nur, do you know the numbers? 00:12:17.620 --> 00:12:23.126 position:50% align:middle In other words, you mentioned to us 100% of U.S. nurses would already have an NCSBN ID. 00:12:23.126 --> 00:12:25.740 position:50% align:middle In terms of NPI, do we know what that percentage might be? 00:12:25.740 --> 00:12:31.250 position:50% align:middle - Last time the data was provided to us, it was approximately 2% of the nurses. 00:12:31.250 --> 00:12:33.020 position:50% align:middle - Two percent? - Yeah. 00:12:33.020 --> 00:12:35.390 position:50% align:middle It is not an either/or. 00:12:35.390 --> 00:12:41.610 position:50% align:middle NPI is an important identifier, and we need to acknowledge that. 00:12:41.610 --> 00:12:50.360 position:50% align:middle But the use of the NPI actually is for a specific use which happens to be for reimbursement for individuals 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:51.200 position:50% align:middle or for entities. 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:53.700 position:50% align:middle NPI can be assigned to a hospital system. 00:12:53.700 --> 00:12:57.140 position:50% align:middle It is not limited to individuals for that matter. 00:12:57.140 --> 00:13:04.750 position:50% align:middle So any entity, individuals that needs to be identified uniquely in the CMS database 00:13:04.750 --> 00:13:09.030 position:50% align:middle for reimbursement purposes, that's what NPI was designed for. 00:13:09.030 --> 00:13:17.340 position:50% align:middle Unique nurse identifier is an identifier that, regardless of the reimbursement, identifies a nurse. 00:13:17.340 --> 00:13:21.880 position:50% align:middle As soon as a nurse is licensed, you need to be identified, 00:13:21.880 --> 00:13:24.410 position:50% align:middle and that's what NCSBN ID does. 00:13:24.410 --> 00:13:25.790 position:50% align:middle So think about it this way. 00:13:25.790 --> 00:13:32.320 position:50% align:middle If it's a nurse record, the top of the header of that nurse record would be the 00:13:32.320 --> 00:13:35.740 position:50% align:middle NCSBN ID that will identify the nurse. 00:13:35.740 --> 00:13:38.870 position:50% align:middle And in that entire record, all of the data elements that you see, 00:13:38.870 --> 00:13:44.730 position:50% align:middle that would be the name of the nurse, the date of birth, the SSN, the license number, or the license numbers. 00:13:44.730 --> 00:13:45.100 position:50% align:middle Right? 00:13:45.100 --> 00:13:46.950 position:50% align:middle Can have multiple licenses. 00:13:46.950 --> 00:13:50.010 position:50% align:middle Credentialing, all the certifications. 00:13:50.010 --> 00:13:54.510 position:50% align:middle And NPI ID is one of those attributes actually. 00:13:54.510 --> 00:13:59.270 position:50% align:middle And if the nurse doesn't have an NPI ID, then that attribute is blank, and that's okay. 00:13:59.270 --> 00:14:05.690 position:50% align:middle But the NCSBN ID being the identifier of the nurse always needs to be there attached to the nurse, 00:14:05.690 --> 00:14:08.009 position:50% align:middle and that is the basic difference. 00:14:08.009 --> 00:14:09.240 position:50% align:middle - That makes a lot of sense. 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:18.430 position:50% align:middle What I want to do now is drill down into specific areas of healthcare, and look at the benefit of the NCSBN ID 00:14:18.430 --> 00:14:22.560 position:50% align:middle either today, or possibly thinking about its potential into the future. 00:14:22.560 --> 00:14:27.500 position:50% align:middle So I'm going to start in the world of education, or research. 00:14:27.500 --> 00:14:32.450 position:50% align:middle And Susan, let me start with you, but I'll invite everyone to chime in as well. 00:14:32.450 --> 00:14:38.119 position:50% align:middle Where do you see the potential of the NCSBN IDs in research or education? 00:14:38.119 --> 00:14:41.740 position:50% align:middle - I think in education, I would emphasize that it's an element 00:14:41.740 --> 00:14:45.950 position:50% align:middle of professionalism, and helping pre-licensure nurses understand how this is assigned, 00:14:45.950 --> 00:14:48.890 position:50% align:middle that this number follows them. 00:14:48.890 --> 00:14:55.220 position:50% align:middle Linking it to competencies, making it seamless between education and practice. 00:14:55.220 --> 00:14:58.850 position:50% align:middle And helping...again, the number stays with them regardless 00:14:58.850 --> 00:15:02.790 position:50% align:middle of their certification, regardless of their education that they 00:15:02.790 --> 00:15:08.700 position:50% align:middle might undertake, it's really the way that they paint their picture of their achievements, 00:15:08.700 --> 00:15:14.270 position:50% align:middle and their expertise, and what they have accomplished. 00:15:14.270 --> 00:15:17.130 position:50% align:middle It should be on CV, right? 00:15:17.130 --> 00:15:18.170 position:50% align:middle It's that important. 00:15:18.170 --> 00:15:20.710 position:50% align:middle It's your number for life. 00:15:20.710 --> 00:15:22.300 position:50% align:middle It's always your number. 00:15:22.300 --> 00:15:23.726 position:50% align:middle Tie it to ORCID IDs. 00:15:23.726 --> 00:15:28.780 position:50% align:middle There are lots and lots of ways to emphasize how unique this number is for a nurse, 00:15:28.780 --> 00:15:31.570 position:50% align:middle and how it travels with them across the career. 00:15:31.570 --> 00:15:34.430 position:50% align:middle But it begins with that pre-licensure nurse. 00:15:34.430 --> 00:15:38.960 position:50% align:middle So I think there's, like I said, an element of professionalism that really should be 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:43.330 position:50% align:middle tied to this number because it's yours. 00:15:43.330 --> 00:15:44.800 position:50% align:middle - Thank you, Susan. 00:15:44.800 --> 00:15:48.150 position:50% align:middle Nancy, did you want to add to that related to education and research? 00:15:48.150 --> 00:15:48.860 position:50% align:middle - Yes. 00:15:48.860 --> 00:15:54.000 position:50% align:middle As I think about research, and we're trying to really understand 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:59.800 position:50% align:middle the impact...well, one area of research is really trying to look at the impact of nurses 00:15:59.800 --> 00:16:06.220 position:50% align:middle and interventions, perhaps, that nurses do on the outcomes of patients. 00:16:06.220 --> 00:16:12.630 position:50% align:middle And to be able to really study that, you need to have an attribute, and significant, 00:16:12.630 --> 00:16:18.350 position:50% align:middle consistent across systems, across states number identifier. 00:16:18.350 --> 00:16:23.500 position:50% align:middle I think the unique nurse identifier being the NCSBN ID affords that. 00:16:23.500 --> 00:16:27.780 position:50% align:middle I think from a research perspective, there's also a lot of opportunity for the future. 00:16:27.780 --> 00:16:36.190 position:50% align:middle For us to understand the trajectory of nursing education, and nursing practice where we have 00:16:36.190 --> 00:16:38.340 position:50% align:middle areas of gap. 00:16:38.340 --> 00:16:45.370 position:50% align:middle Say, for example, we need more ICU staff, or perhaps we need more perinatal staff in a certain 00:16:45.370 --> 00:16:53.230 position:50% align:middle area to really understand where people are going from their educational path will help us better understand 00:16:53.230 --> 00:16:57.410 position:50% align:middle where we need to go back and improve some of our educational processes. 00:16:57.410 --> 00:16:58.050 position:50% align:middle Right? 00:16:58.050 --> 00:17:04.620 position:50% align:middle And then forecast what we're going to be needing for the future as we look to what is very well known 00:17:04.620 --> 00:17:06.620 position:50% align:middle as a nursing shortage. 00:17:06.620 --> 00:17:08.420 position:50% align:middle - I'm so glad you brought that up, Nancy. 00:17:08.420 --> 00:17:15.980 position:50% align:middle That actually ties into where I was going to go with Whende, which is the advantages of the NCSBN ID, 00:17:15.980 --> 00:17:24.213 position:50% align:middle or even the potential future uses when it comes to either employers, or the nursing workforce in general. 00:17:24.213 --> 00:17:28.740 position:50% align:middle - I'm a futurist, so this is a very exciting question for me. 00:17:28.740 --> 00:17:37.812 position:50% align:middle And I know the discussion has come up for being able to really start a nurse's journey with the NCSBN 00:17:37.812 --> 00:17:39.900 position:50% align:middle ID at NCLEX. 00:17:39.900 --> 00:17:45.950 position:50% align:middle Really following the journey of the nurse through academia, through the research that they do, 00:17:45.950 --> 00:17:50.840 position:50% align:middle when they change jobs, go to different departments, and have that be electronic, 00:17:50.840 --> 00:17:55.040 position:50% align:middle something that they can carry with them, something that's going to have all 00:17:55.040 --> 00:18:02.920 position:50% align:middle their education there, but even education modules that they did in another position. 00:18:02.920 --> 00:18:13.800 position:50% align:middle But that information that they hold to have it be their own, and have there be a culture shift for employers 00:18:13.800 --> 00:18:15.220 position:50% align:middle as you go along. 00:18:15.220 --> 00:18:20.405 position:50% align:middle But to really be able to say, "This is my information tied to my NCSBN ID, 00:18:20.405 --> 00:18:23.907 position:50% align:middle and here's everything I've done in my career so far." 00:18:23.907 --> 00:18:30.100 position:50% align:middle - Nancy, is there value in the NCSBN ID just to the general public or consumer as well? 00:18:30.100 --> 00:18:32.203 position:50% align:middle - Absolutely. 00:18:32.203 --> 00:18:42.900 position:50% align:middle One of the things related to licensure is just that contract, that being a licensed nurse has 00:18:42.900 --> 00:18:49.120 position:50% align:middle with the public, that ensures that you have been educated and credentialed appropriately. 00:18:49.120 --> 00:18:54.930 position:50% align:middle Being able to go to the Nursys system, and look up at an individual, 00:18:54.930 --> 00:19:03.700 position:50% align:middle or even as a health system to be able to have access to an automated feed that tells me the license is valid, 00:19:03.700 --> 00:19:11.390 position:50% align:middle the person has an active credential, and it's not encumbered in any way, shape, or form. 00:19:11.390 --> 00:19:17.390 position:50% align:middle That really solidifies our contract with the public to provide nursing care. 00:19:17.390 --> 00:19:25.610 position:50% align:middle - So if I may dovetail both actually on the comment that Whende mentioned, I picked up the word electronic. 00:19:25.610 --> 00:19:29.820 position:50% align:middle And then, Nancy, you just mentioned about license credentials. 00:19:29.820 --> 00:19:37.960 position:50% align:middle So to bring the two together, and that is the future, looking at the licenses from a digital 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:44.390 position:50% align:middle verification credentials, not just on paper, but being able to have a digital credential 00:19:44.390 --> 00:19:47.169 position:50% align:middle that is verifiable. 00:19:47.169 --> 00:19:51.400 position:50% align:middle A nurse can have that in her or his digital wallet, so to speak. 00:19:51.400 --> 00:19:58.780 position:50% align:middle So your unique identifier, and as Susan articulated, "This is my number as a nurse, this is with me." 00:19:58.780 --> 00:20:05.770 position:50% align:middle That could be a digital credential that can actually stay with the nurse in her or his wallet. 00:20:05.770 --> 00:20:07.360 position:50% align:middle That's the future. 00:20:07.360 --> 00:20:08.750 position:50% align:middle - Thank you, Nur. 00:20:08.750 --> 00:20:12.880 position:50% align:middle Now, one of the things I think that almost everybody thinks about now when we think 00:20:12.880 --> 00:20:20.090 position:50% align:middle about identification numbers, unfortunately, is fraud or abuses of privacy. 00:20:20.090 --> 00:20:26.239 position:50% align:middle How do you see the NCSBN ID as mitigating these sorts of things? 00:20:26.239 --> 00:20:31.723 position:50% align:middle - Well, from a fraud perspective, I'll tell you that how it can help 00:20:31.723 --> 00:20:34.210 position:50% align:middle the nurse, for example. 00:20:34.210 --> 00:20:40.520 position:50% align:middle I believe one of the panelists mentioned that you can have multiple licenses in different states. 00:20:40.520 --> 00:20:44.310 position:50% align:middle So let's say, for example, you have licenses in five different states. 00:20:44.310 --> 00:20:51.690 position:50% align:middle Well, each state, because of their own system, will generate a license number. 00:20:51.690 --> 00:20:54.490 position:50% align:middle So you're going to have five different numbers. 00:20:54.490 --> 00:20:59.741 position:50% align:middle I mean, nobody remembers their license numbers when it goes above and beyond one, perhaps not even one. 00:20:59.741 --> 00:21:01.810 position:50% align:middle But think about it this way. 00:21:01.810 --> 00:21:08.340 position:50% align:middle If an identifier like an NCSBN ID, which is connected to the nurse, 00:21:08.340 --> 00:21:16.240 position:50% align:middle can automatically assimilate all of those numbers, and lay it out for you in the Nursys system by just 00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:18.500 position:50% align:middle looking up that ID. 00:21:18.500 --> 00:21:26.290 position:50% align:middle Now, for a nurse, if the nurse is enrolled in the Nurse e-Notify system that NCSBN provides free of charge 00:21:26.290 --> 00:21:32.370 position:50% align:middle to the nurses, if somebody tries to get a license for some reason. 00:21:32.370 --> 00:21:36.980 position:50% align:middle Now, there are lots of protection in place by the boards of nursing. 00:21:36.980 --> 00:21:42.570 position:50% align:middle They go through a lot of checks and make sure that the individual does not get a license through kind 00:21:42.570 --> 00:21:50.400 position:50% align:middle of a fraud, but if somebody tries very hard, and they actually go through identity capture process, 00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:54.610 position:50% align:middle or whatever that may be, and if they do get a license in state X, well, 00:21:54.610 --> 00:21:59.040 position:50% align:middle if the nurse is connected to Nurse e-Notify, they will get a notification of, 00:21:59.040 --> 00:22:01.670 position:50% align:middle "Congratulations that you get a license in state X." 00:22:01.670 --> 00:22:05.800 position:50% align:middle So this nurse can say, "Wait a minute, I did not get a license." 00:22:05.800 --> 00:22:12.100 position:50% align:middle All of this connection is done through the NCSBN ID that allows the nurse to keep track of all of their 00:22:12.100 --> 00:22:14.970 position:50% align:middle licenses and records based on one ID. 00:22:14.970 --> 00:22:16.950 position:50% align:middle And that can help cut down the fraud. 00:22:16.950 --> 00:22:29.000 position:50% align:middle I'm also told that CMS is also looking to cut down on fraud from their perspective, because, right now, 00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:33.790 position:50% align:middle you can actually have an NPI number, a nurse can get an NPI number, 00:22:33.790 --> 00:22:39.530 position:50% align:middle and there is no guarantee that that individual is a nurse because there are no formal checks in place 00:22:39.530 --> 00:22:40.960 position:50% align:middle at this point. 00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:50.360 position:50% align:middle So what CMS is attempting to do is when a nurse applies for an NPI, they want to be able to check the Nursys 00:22:50.360 --> 00:22:57.370 position:50% align:middle system with the ID, with the NCSBN ID, to make sure that individual is licensed where the 00:22:57.370 --> 00:23:01.810 position:50% align:middle nurse is saying they're licensed, and it is not encumbered. 00:23:01.810 --> 00:23:10.110 position:50% align:middle So this is a great example of NPI, what it does, but what a unique nurse identifier NCSBN ID does 00:23:10.110 --> 00:23:13.630 position:50% align:middle to help cut down on the fraud for NPI as well. 00:23:13.630 --> 00:23:14.880 position:50% align:middle - That's fantastic. 00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:19.580 position:50% align:middle And, Nur, just to clarify, in terms of privacy, really with the NCSBN ID, 00:23:19.580 --> 00:23:22.040 position:50% align:middle it's just public information to begin with, isn't that right? 00:23:22.040 --> 00:23:24.308 position:50% align:middle - Yeah, that is correct. 00:23:24.308 --> 00:23:25.130 position:50% align:middle - Okay. 00:23:25.130 --> 00:23:28.660 position:50% align:middle Well, now, this is going to be fun because, Whende, you mentioned you're a futurist. 00:23:28.660 --> 00:23:31.830 position:50% align:middle I'm actually going to have all four of you look into your crystal balls. 00:23:31.830 --> 00:23:38.430 position:50% align:middle And give me the next few years ahead for the NCSBN ID in terms of the kinds of things that you think might 00:23:38.430 --> 00:23:39.200 position:50% align:middle happen with it. 00:23:39.200 --> 00:23:43.677 position:50% align:middle So, Whende, I'll start with you and then we'll give everybody a chance to respond. 00:23:43.677 --> 00:23:44.543 position:50% align:middle - Yeah. 00:23:44.543 --> 00:23:53.030 position:50% align:middle Well, I think that where I see things going is there being more education about the differences between the 00:23:53.030 --> 00:24:00.670 position:50% align:middle NCSBN ID and the NPI, and really more call to action and advocacy for its 00:24:00.670 --> 00:24:02.170 position:50% align:middle use by leaders. 00:24:02.170 --> 00:24:09.570 position:50% align:middle And not only that, we're already seeing by nurses practicing clinically at the bedside, 00:24:09.570 --> 00:24:14.350 position:50% align:middle and in non-clinical professional roles. 00:24:14.350 --> 00:24:22.890 position:50% align:middle So I see more advocacy, I see more use, and I see a global opportunities 00:24:22.890 --> 00:24:27.871 position:50% align:middle for this internationally. 00:24:27.871 --> 00:24:29.030 position:50% align:middle - Nancy, how about you? 00:24:29.030 --> 00:24:30.090 position:50% align:middle What's in your crystal ball? 00:24:30.090 --> 00:24:37.690 position:50% align:middle - I think I would tag on to the last comment that Whende made about international opportunities. 00:24:37.690 --> 00:24:45.930 position:50% align:middle Again, if we look at the shortage of nurses, it's not uncommon for us to have nurses in the 00:24:45.930 --> 00:24:54.770 position:50% align:middle United States who have come from other countries across the globe, whether that is somebody who's coming 00:24:54.770 --> 00:24:59.420 position:50% align:middle from India, or the Philippines, or perhaps even Canada. 00:24:59.420 --> 00:25:02.330 position:50% align:middle There's a lot of mobility in our culture. 00:25:02.330 --> 00:25:09.960 position:50% align:middle And in some areas, that is a way that they are fulfilling some of the shortage gaps. 00:25:09.960 --> 00:25:18.190 position:50% align:middle So being able to have a number that allows us to very quickly reference what type of credential that 00:25:18.190 --> 00:25:20.620 position:50% align:middle person has, and whether or not it is active. 00:25:20.620 --> 00:25:28.710 position:50% align:middle I think that is just going to really exponentially help us to assist in what has become a more open 00:25:28.710 --> 00:25:30.910 position:50% align:middle and global community. 00:25:30.910 --> 00:25:35.130 position:50% align:middle I think the other thing is, because I'm a systems person, 00:25:35.130 --> 00:25:42.970 position:50% align:middle I really see more use of this identifier across technologies to really 00:25:42.970 --> 00:25:47.090 position:50% align:middle facilitate interoperability, again. 00:25:47.090 --> 00:25:56.515 position:50% align:middle We now have one of the major EHR vendors who has incorporated this into their technology. 00:25:56.515 --> 00:26:02.630 position:50% align:middle And so, many health systems across the U.S., and even outside of the U.S., 00:26:02.630 --> 00:26:08.310 position:50% align:middle will have access for a place holder to exchange that information across technologies. 00:26:08.310 --> 00:26:16.880 position:50% align:middle So I really think it will become just another really important attribute of an individual who's working 00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:18.130 position:50% align:middle for a system. 00:26:18.130 --> 00:26:19.670 position:50% align:middle - Thank you, Nancy. 00:26:19.670 --> 00:26:21.230 position:50% align:middle Nur, how about in your crystal ball? 00:26:21.230 --> 00:26:27.460 position:50% align:middle And do you see international expansion of NCSBN ID, or do we see it as a U.S.-only at the moment? 00:26:27.460 --> 00:26:33.520 position:50% align:middle - Well, I'll echo what Whende and Nancy mentioned about the international aspect of it. 00:26:33.520 --> 00:26:40.100 position:50% align:middle But let me just talk about the security piece, because that's how I started the data security. 00:26:40.100 --> 00:26:47.700 position:50% align:middle One of the most important things right now is that you do not want your personally identifiable information, 00:26:47.700 --> 00:26:50.970 position:50% align:middle which is also known as the PII, out there. 00:26:50.970 --> 00:26:52.940 position:50% align:middle Your date of birth, your SSN. 00:26:52.940 --> 00:26:57.990 position:50% align:middle Unfortunately, when data breaches and data hacks happen, that's the first thing that gets 00:26:57.990 --> 00:27:00.030 position:50% align:middle publicized out there. 00:27:00.030 --> 00:27:02.510 position:50% align:middle But you want to be able to minimize that. 00:27:02.510 --> 00:27:05.340 position:50% align:middle Well, what is the best way to minimize it? 00:27:05.340 --> 00:27:06.860 position:50% align:middle Just not have it. 00:27:06.860 --> 00:27:14.520 position:50% align:middle For example, if a nurse data set, if you can strip out all of the nurses' PII data that 00:27:14.520 --> 00:27:22.130 position:50% align:middle identifies a nurse, like date of birth, SSN, or anything else, and replace that with an ID, 00:27:22.130 --> 00:27:23.580 position:50% align:middle and that's it. 00:27:23.580 --> 00:27:29.000 position:50% align:middle Now, you can identify the nurse with that ID, and you don't have to have the nurse's PII data 00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:30.250 position:50% align:middle in your data set. 00:27:30.250 --> 00:27:35.360 position:50% align:middle Now, think about two different hospital systems who are engaged in some kind of a research, 00:27:35.360 --> 00:27:38.050 position:50% align:middle and they want to be able to exchange the data set. 00:27:38.050 --> 00:27:43.840 position:50% align:middle Well, in the past, folks like me, CIOs, and CISOs, and everybody else says, "No, no, no, 00:27:43.840 --> 00:27:48.500 position:50% align:middle you are not going to exchange the nurse data set with the PII data in it." 00:27:48.500 --> 00:27:50.620 position:50% align:middle That's potential data security. 00:27:50.620 --> 00:27:53.930 position:50% align:middle Now, the hospital systems can say, "We don't have any PII data. 00:27:53.930 --> 00:27:58.200 position:50% align:middle The only thing I have is a unique number which happens to identify the nurse." 00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:04.590 position:50% align:middle And this way, researchers all across the country, if they consume the ID for the nurse, 00:28:04.590 --> 00:28:10.970 position:50% align:middle can replace the nurse's PII data with the ID, and freely exchange the data for research purposes. 00:28:10.970 --> 00:28:13.980 position:50% align:middle That's what gives security to the data set. 00:28:13.980 --> 00:28:15.260 position:50% align:middle That's the first thing. 00:28:15.260 --> 00:28:22.700 position:50% align:middle The second part is that our northern neighbor, namely Canada, that is the first country that we have 00:28:22.700 --> 00:28:31.490 position:50% align:middle the nursing regulatory boards, member of NCSBN, and we are working with them very diligently to assign 00:28:31.490 --> 00:28:33.430 position:50% align:middle a unique nurse identifier. 00:28:33.430 --> 00:28:36.640 position:50% align:middle And that happens to be the same NCSBN ID. 00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:43.926 position:50% align:middle We have to make sure that the unique nurse identifier assigned to the nurses in Canada do not have a 00:28:43.926 --> 00:28:46.360 position:50% align:middle duplication here in the U.S. 00:28:46.360 --> 00:28:48.750 position:50% align:middle So, we are actually thinking globally ahead of time. 00:28:48.750 --> 00:28:56.930 position:50% align:middle So, if a nurse in Ontario is assigned a unique nurse identifier NCSBN ID, then the same nurse, 00:28:56.930 --> 00:29:02.430 position:50% align:middle if that nurse happens to have a license in Maine, should have the same NCSBN ID. 00:29:02.430 --> 00:29:04.920 position:50% align:middle That is what I believe Nancy mentioned. 00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:08.990 position:50% align:middle That is what I believe Whende looked in a crystal ball and mentioned that. 00:29:08.990 --> 00:29:19.650 position:50% align:middle Having one ID globally in the nursing world is going to really further a lot of the nursing research, practice, 00:29:19.650 --> 00:29:20.890 position:50% align:middle and a lot more. 00:29:20.890 --> 00:29:22.550 position:50% align:middle - Thank you, Nur. 00:29:22.550 --> 00:29:28.850 position:50% align:middle So, Susan, I know when Nur mentioned researchers exchanging data sets freely and easily, 00:29:28.850 --> 00:29:32.000 position:50% align:middle that's something that in the world of education must mean a lot. 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:36.051 position:50% align:middle What do you see in the future in your crystal ball? 00:29:36.051 --> 00:29:45.510 position:50% align:middle - I would say that we have a real need to be able to, again, know where our nurses go. 00:29:45.510 --> 00:29:53.010 position:50% align:middle And we have a duty that underlies what we do as nurses to prevent fraud, to protect the public. 00:29:53.010 --> 00:29:56.820 position:50% align:middle But using this number, and having the ability to transfer it across data sets, 00:29:56.820 --> 00:30:00.837 position:50% align:middle and from facility to facility, it's highly interoperable. 00:30:00.837 --> 00:30:07.250 position:50% align:middle It helps us also realize the importance of protecting the public, and being able to respond to needs, 00:30:07.250 --> 00:30:14.000 position:50% align:middle and to capitalize or maximize our different licensure in different states. 00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:16.240 position:50% align:middle You can use the licensure by endorsement. 00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:21.870 position:50% align:middle So you can really go where the public has needs in a much more fluid way than we ever could. 00:30:21.870 --> 00:30:26.500 position:50% align:middle And to better understand, like I said, how are our nurses moving across the country, 00:30:26.500 --> 00:30:31.240 position:50% align:middle and what systems are they working, in what care settings, whether it's telemedicine, 00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:32.860 position:50% align:middle or whether it's acute care facilities. 00:30:32.860 --> 00:30:39.293 position:50% align:middle We can just really get an idea of the workforce issues in a way that we never could. 00:30:39.293 --> 00:30:43.740 position:50% align:middle - You've painted, I think, a really exciting future where the NCSBN ID is 00:30:43.740 --> 00:30:48.630 position:50% align:middle instrumental to so many different positive changes that we need in healthcare. 00:30:48.630 --> 00:30:54.650 position:50% align:middle What do you see as actions that nurse leaders, or the nursing community, 00:30:54.650 --> 00:30:57.620 position:50% align:middle or even the public might take to help bring about this future? 00:30:57.620 --> 00:31:02.800 position:50% align:middle - There are, I think, two or three things that can happen. 00:31:02.800 --> 00:31:05.950 position:50% align:middle The first thing is with regulatory and law. 00:31:05.950 --> 00:31:14.660 position:50% align:middle We need to ensure that with the NCSBN ID, the compact licenses states that we are creating access 00:31:14.660 --> 00:31:22.160 position:50% align:middle and equity for practice across the United States, and potentially globally eventually. 00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:31.330 position:50% align:middle Because we are trying to, in the future of nursing, our goals from 2020 to 2030 are to improve equity. 00:31:31.330 --> 00:31:38.110 position:50% align:middle So the use of the unique nurse identifier can help us with patient outcomes. 00:31:38.110 --> 00:31:43.260 position:50% align:middle We can look at clinician and nursing outcomes, we can look at population health outcomes, 00:31:43.260 --> 00:31:46.960 position:50% align:middle and we can also look at those regulatory outcomes as well. 00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:53.690 position:50% align:middle The contribution of nursing is really little known to society. 00:31:53.690 --> 00:32:01.690 position:50% align:middle And I think using a unique nurse identifier such as the NCSBN ID gives us a voice, gives us visibility, 00:32:01.690 --> 00:32:08.990 position:50% align:middle gives us a way to show our contribution in value-based care to begin to really measure that. 00:32:08.990 --> 00:32:10.840 position:50% align:middle - Susan, how about you? 00:32:10.840 --> 00:32:16.400 position:50% align:middle What actions can you see the nursing community taking to bring about a better future with NCSBN ID? 00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:19.230 position:50% align:middle - Be aware that you have this number. 00:32:19.230 --> 00:32:23.400 position:50% align:middle I talk to colleagues frequently, and sometimes the reaction is, 00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:25.250 position:50% align:middle "Well, I don't think I really need that number." 00:32:25.250 --> 00:32:27.350 position:50% align:middle And I say, "Oh, you have it. 00:32:27.350 --> 00:32:31.620 position:50% align:middle Let me show you how to find your number and use it, integrate it into your systems, 00:32:31.620 --> 00:32:33.420 position:50% align:middle and sign up for e-Notify. 00:32:33.420 --> 00:32:37.790 position:50% align:middle It's a great way to track your own licensure across multiple states." 00:32:37.790 --> 00:32:42.895 position:50% align:middle There's just so many different ways that this number can be used to make your practice easier. 00:32:42.895 --> 00:32:44.470 position:50% align:middle - Thank you, Susan. 00:32:44.470 --> 00:32:47.091 position:50% align:middle And Nancy, we'll close with you. 00:32:47.091 --> 00:32:49.920 position:50% align:middle - So there are three things that come to mind for me. 00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:59.840 position:50% align:middle First and foremost, I think we have some work to do to help leaders understand more information about the 00:32:59.840 --> 00:33:06.440 position:50% align:middle unique nurse identifier, and how it can benefit the profession. 00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:14.570 position:50% align:middle And the work that leaders can do is to promote knowledge and use of the number 00:33:14.570 --> 00:33:19.650 position:50% align:middle throughout the organization, throughout systems and technologies that they're using. 00:33:19.650 --> 00:33:29.590 position:50% align:middle The second thing is we also have not only nurses in practice, but nurses who are in the education process, 00:33:29.590 --> 00:33:35.760 position:50% align:middle who, as Susan stated, aren't aware of the fact that they have this number, 00:33:35.760 --> 00:33:37.480 position:50% align:middle or they'll be receiving this number. 00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:45.180 position:50% align:middle So we have some basic education and groundwork we can do to help educate the nursing community. 00:33:45.180 --> 00:33:51.080 position:50% align:middle And lastly, I would say the use of the unique nurse identifier can help us 00:33:51.080 --> 00:34:00.140 position:50% align:middle to really tie to better patient outcomes, and learn more information about nursing overall. 00:34:00.140 --> 00:34:04.976 position:50% align:middle And I think those things will contribute to elevating the practice of nursing. 00:34:04.976 --> 00:34:10.568 position:50% align:middle - So it sounds like what I'm hearing is know that you have the NCSBN ID, use it, 00:34:10.568 --> 00:34:12.100 position:50% align:middle and encourage others to use it. 00:34:12.100 --> 00:34:12.819 position:50% align:middle - Exactly. 00:34:12.819 --> 00:34:14.380 position:50% align:middle - Okay. 00:34:14.380 --> 00:34:17.660 position:50% align:middle Well, I think that's really the perfect thought to close on today. 00:34:17.660 --> 00:34:22.610 position:50% align:middle Thanks to all our panelists for their expertise, and all the hard work they've done to promote the 00:34:22.610 --> 00:34:25.036 position:50% align:middle importance and value of the NCSBN ID. 00:34:25.036 --> 00:34:28.170 position:50% align:middle We learned quite a bit today about the NCSBN ID. 00:34:28.170 --> 00:34:30.730 position:50% align:middle We know it's something all nurses already have. 00:34:30.730 --> 00:34:34.120 position:50% align:middle It supports interoperability across all data systems. 00:34:34.120 --> 00:34:36.240 position:50% align:middle It protects personal information. 00:34:36.240 --> 00:34:42.790 position:50% align:middle It's the only identifier specifically for nurses, and it stays with them throughout their entire career. 00:34:42.790 --> 00:34:48.710 position:50% align:middle We've also heard a lot about the many ways the NCSBN ID can support research, improve patient outcomes, 00:34:48.710 --> 00:34:51.190 position:50% align:middle and address workforce needs. 00:34:51.190 --> 00:34:59.500 position:50% align:middle Finally, you can obtain the NCSBN ID free of charge and immediately through our Nursys website at nursys.com. 00:34:59.500 --> 00:35:04.288 position:50% align:middle Thanks to all of our panelists, and thanks to all of you for joining us today. 00:35:05.600 --> 00:35:08.600 position:50% align:middle ♪ [music] ♪